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Marc van Breemen
2009-09-03 06:46:35 UTC
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Why oh why doesn't PowerBasic still not offer a real trial version?. As
a old time user of TurboBasic I would love to see if PowerBasic is a
good alternative for VB.NET which I now use.

In 2006 I did ask them for a trial and got this answer:

"We do not have demo/free/eval copies at this time. However, there is a
great deal of information available at www.powerbasic.com, including a
complete list of all statements and functions. Also, there are more than
200,000 searchable customer messages on our forum section which should
provide great insight into the quality of our products."

In other words "trust us" and rely on the opinions of loyal PowerBasic
users.

I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.

Every other commercial programming language has a trial version. Why not
PowerBasic? What are they afraid of? If they are really convinced that
they offer a great product then they must provide a trail imho ....
Bob Zale
2009-09-03 09:03:59 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
Why oh why doesn't PowerBasic still not offer a real trial version?. As
a old time user of TurboBasic I would love to see if PowerBasic is a
good alternative for VB.NET which I now use.
"We do not have demo/free/eval copies at this time. However, there is a
great deal of information available atwww.powerbasic.com, including a
complete list of all statements and functions. Also, there are more than
200,000 searchable customer messages on our forum section which should
provide great insight into the quality of our products."
In other words "trust us" and rely on the opinions of loyal PowerBasic
users.
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
Every other commercial programming language has a trial version. Why not
PowerBasic? What are they afraid of? If they are really convinced that
they offer a great product then they must provide a trail imho ....
We do not offer a trial version of PowerBASIC at this time, because we
have found that we have no need for a trial version at this time. It
adds a good deal of work to create, maintain, and support, and we do
not foresee that it would increase our sales appreciably. If other
publishers feel the need to do so, it may be that's the only way they
think they can sell their product. We don't have a problem selling
copies of PowerBASIC, so we prefer to avoid the extra expense, and
consequential increase in selling price.

We do offer a money-back guarantee for 30-days on products which are
physically delivered. We have found that gives great "comfort" to our
new customers. Does it work? Out of thousands of copies sold, our
total return rate is typically only 5 or 6 copies per year. That's a
pretty good testament to the quality of our product.

Do you apply your "they must offer a trial..." demand to other areas
of your life? When you visit your market, do you take home a couple
of steaks without paying for them? Do you tell the grocer that you'll
cook them this evening, then return to pay for them tomorrow only if
you find they meet your needs? How well does that work for you?

PowerBASIC is not "afraid" of anything, and it probably isn't very
charitable to make that suggestion. We simply apply the sales and
marketing policies that we believe will be most effective overall. If
you find these policies are not the best for you, it would probably be
in your interest to seek out a different vendor. Visiting here and
going on about your dislike for our policy isn't likely to produce
positive results for you.

All of that said, I certainly hope you'll visit www.powerbasic.com.
Read our product descriptions. Read the complete manual online.
Review close to 350,000 messages from good programmers just like you
who will attest to the quality of PowerBASIC products. Perhaps that
will help you reach a decision.

Best regards,

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Marc van Breemen
2009-09-03 11:20:29 UTC
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Do you apply your "they must offer a trial..." demand to other areas
of your life? When you visit your market, do you take home a couple
of steaks without paying for them? Do you tell the grocer that you'll
cook them this evening, then return to pay for them tomorrow only if
you find they meet your needs? How well does that work for you?
You making a comparison with something completely different. If I'm buying
food I pretty know what I can expect. If I'm interested in a certain car
I'll ask the dealer for a test drive. If the dealer would say "buy the car
first" then most people would find that odd I believe.
Post by Bob Zale
PowerBASIC is not "afraid" of anything, and it probably isn't very
charitable to make that suggestion. We simply apply the sales and
marketing policies that we believe will be most effective overall. If
you find these policies are not the best for you, it would probably be
in your interest to seek out a different vendor. Visiting here and
going on about your dislike for our policy isn't likely to produce
positive results for you.
English isn't my native language, so I guess I've used the wrong words to
express my feeling; I'm sorry. I'm not criticizing your way of doing
business; you have every right to do it like you do. What I meant to say
is that I don't know *why* trial versions are not available now at PB. You
*do* (or did) offer trial versions for FirstBasic and PB/DOS. You've
answered my question now for which I thank you. I just wish you would not
take me as a negative person from the start. I do think you have wonderful
products, I just wish that I could try them a bit first.
Post by Bob Zale
All of that said, I certainly hope you'll visit www.powerbasic.com.
Read our product descriptions. Read the complete manual online.
Review close to 350,000 messages from good programmers just like you
who will attest to the quality of PowerBASIC products. Perhaps that
will help you reach a decision.
Maybe. I'm still interested, so I don't write you off right away.
Post by Bob Zale
Best regards,
Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Olav
2009-09-04 11:05:43 UTC
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Post by Bob Zale
Do you apply your "they must offer a trial..." demand to other areas
of your life? When you visit your market, do you take home a couple
of steaks without paying for them? Do you tell the grocer that you'll
cook them this evening, then return to pay for them tomorrow only if
you find they meet your needs? How well does that work for you?
You making a comparison with something completely different. If I'm buying
food I pretty know what I can expect. If I'm interested in a certain car
I'll ask the dealer for a test drive. If the dealer would say "buy the car
first" then most people would find that odd I believe.
Yeah, Bob Zale compares apples with oranges and is quite convinced that
the answer must be banana, if that is what his rules claims it to
be, so it shall be.
--
OB
Post by Marc van Breemen
Post by Bob Zale
PowerBASIC is not "afraid" of anything, and it probably isn't very
charitable to make that suggestion. We simply apply the sales and
marketing policies that we believe will be most effective overall. If
you find these policies are not the best for you, it would probably be
in your interest to seek out a different vendor. Visiting here and
going on about your dislike for our policy isn't likely to produce
positive results for you.
English isn't my native language, so I guess I've used the wrong words to
express my feeling; I'm sorry. I'm not criticizing your way of doing
business; you have every right to do it like you do. What I meant to say
is that I don't know *why* trial versions are not available now at PB. You
*do* (or did) offer trial versions for FirstBasic and PB/DOS. You've
answered my question now for which I thank you. I just wish you would not
take me as a negative person from the start. I do think you have wonderful
products, I just wish that I could try them a bit first.
Post by Bob Zale
All of that said, I certainly hope you'll visit www.powerbasic.com.
Read our product descriptions. Read the complete manual online.
Review close to 350,000 messages from good programmers just like you
who will attest to the quality of PowerBASIC products. Perhaps that
will help you reach a decision.
Maybe. I'm still interested, so I don't write you off right away.
Post by Bob Zale
Best regards,
Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Bob Zale
2009-09-03 09:08:15 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
Why oh why doesn't PowerBasic still not offer a real trial version?. As
a old time user of TurboBasic I would love to see if PowerBasic is a
good alternative for VB.NET which I now use.
"We do not have demo/free/eval copies at this time. However, there is a
great deal of information available atwww.powerbasic.com, including a
complete list of all statements and functions. Also, there are more than
200,000 searchable customer messages on our forum section which should
provide great insight into the quality of our products."
In other words "trust us" and rely on the opinions of loyal PowerBasic
users.
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
Every other commercial programming language has a trial version. Why not
PowerBasic? What are they afraid of? If they are really convinced that
they offer a great product then they must provide a trail imho ....
By the way, Marc, that's a pretty nice reply our support staff sent
you! {smile} I'll have to compliment them tomorrow.

Best regards,

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Tom Lake
2009-09-03 11:59:03 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
By the way, Marc, that's a pretty nice reply our support staff sent
you! {smile} I'll have to compliment them tomorrow.
How about letting a person who buys the physical version also download it
immediately while waiting for the USPS, UPS or FedEx truck?
That way we wouldn't have to wait for the delivery. If the help files are
good
any printed material might even be superfluous.

Tom Lake
Bob Zale
2009-09-03 12:23:34 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
By the way, Marc, that's a pretty nice reply our support staff sent
you!  {smile}  I'll have to compliment them tomorrow.
How about letting a person who buys the physical version also download it
immediately while waiting for the USPS, UPS or FedEx truck?
That way we wouldn't have to wait for the delivery.  If the help files are
good
any printed material might even be superfluous.
Tom Lake
Good Question, Tom. Thank you. When you purchase PowerBASIC, you may
choose electronic download, physical delivery, or both. That is no
problem at all. Also, the optional printed book is virtually
identical (in wording) to the help file. The only reason to buy the
book is if you want a physical book to hold in your hands. The words
are the same, and you can read every word on our web site. Just GOTO
www.powerbasic.com and click HELP DESK. Since this thread had some
question about our policies, I'm including the entire satisfaction
guarantee policy below. Thanks for asking!

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.


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Dave -Turner
2009-09-03 12:45:00 UTC
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Yes you're correct, you have to purchase it and hope for the best.

After using Powerbasic for 9 years and being royally shafted and suspended
from their forum I can comfortably say from experience that you DO NOT want
to invest any time or money in Powerbasic. It is a small company, Bob Zale
is essentially the only developer, with a couple of newbies on the side
handling tech support, a very small userbase, a very small amount of example
source code available, and Powerbasic have demonstrated that even if you
contribute source code for over 9 years they still don't give a shit about
any of your contributions.

Think bigger, greener pastures - it seems that's where all the long-term
Powerbasic developers are disappearing to, so learn from their experience
now.
Marc van Breemen
2009-09-03 13:23:28 UTC
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Yes you're correct, you have to purchase it and hope for the best.
After using Powerbasic for 9 years and being royally shafted and suspended
from their forum I can comfortably say from experience that you DO NOT want
to invest any time or money in Powerbasic. It is a small company, Bob Zale
is essentially the only developer, with a couple of newbies on the side
handling tech support, a very small userbase, a very small amount of example
source code available, and Powerbasic have demonstrated that even if you
contribute source code for over 9 years they still don't give a shit about
any of your contributions.
Think bigger, greener pastures - it seems that's where all the long-term
Powerbasic developers are disappearing to, so learn from their experience
now.
I do respect everyones opinion like yours. Reading your other posts it
seems that you are in a bit of a fight with Bob Zale / PB. Forgive me for
saying, but it's very human that one's opinion *may* get a bit subjective
after some time.

It happens more often that people are getting banned on forums, because of
some rules. I don't say that I agree with those rules all of the time, but
rules are there.

Can you explain why I should stay away from PB? I don't say that I will do
that, but I'm always interested in everyone's opinion; both from you and
PB / Bob Zale. Where are the "long-term Powerbasic developers disappearing
to"?

Bob: I'm not arguing your opinion, I just want to hear Dave's.
Dave -Turner
2009-09-03 13:43:44 UTC
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It happens more often that people are getting banned on forums, because of
some rules. I don't say that I agree with those rules all of the time, but
rules are there.
Then why didn't he ban me in 2000 when I first joined, after we exchanged
emails about it?

Why did he let me continue to post for the next 9 years and over 2100+
posts?

Why is it that I'm only now banned because I emailed a bug report to
Post by Marc van Breemen
Can you explain why I should stay away from PB?
There are a lot of things I LIKE about PB which is why I've invested nine
years and over $1000 in it, but these last few years, especially with some
of the longtimers disappearing out of nowhere, has made me take a step back
and look at the bigger picture of where I am, where Powerbasic is, where
it's been, where it's going, and where I'm going, which is why I still
haven't bought PBWIN9 or PBCC4 yet.

When you start developing in Powerbasic youll inevitably search through the
forums for code samples (or POFFS - an excellent offline version, written by
Borje Hagsten) ... and you'll frequently find that code and solutions to
problems posted by people like Lance Edmonds, Steve Hutchesson, Borje
Hagsten, Semen Matusovski and so on frequently come up, yet those people are
no longer here, no longer contributing source code ... it's as if they've
just disappeared out of the blue, none of them even said as much as a
goodbye. One day they're here, now they're gone.

Best regards,
Wayne
ps... Dave Turner obviously just being another alias I use -- some people
choose to use their real names on the Internet (and thats fine if that's
their personal preference and they're not FORCED into it), others choose to
use pseudo-real names, others choose to use completely different names, but
whether my name is Tom Jones or Dick Smith affects you in no way, yet you
can see how much it affects Bob/PB.

So much for putting customer privacy first huh? :-(
Bob Zale
2009-09-03 14:42:03 UTC
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On Sep 3, 9:43 am, "Dave -Turner" <***@127.0.0.1> wrote:


"...they still don't give a shit about any of your contributions."

Well, Dave Turner/Wayne Diamond/George Bush, it's been my experience
that when folks have nothing of value to say, they resort to
vulgarity. It sort of draws attention to them so they get their "15
minutes of fame". I'm pretty sure we've now reached about 14.7
minutes of yours.

Incidentally, we have not suspended your account. We've simply
moderated it until you keep your word and use your real name. That's
what you promised when you registered. Please keep your promise?

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Olav
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"Bob Zale" <***@powerbasic.com> skrev i melding news:2ff6811f-1b38-4c79-978e-***@g19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 3, 9:43 am, "Dave -Turner" <***@127.0.0.1> wrote:


"...they still don't give a shit about any of your contributions."

Well, Dave Turner/Wayne Diamond/George Bush, it's been my experience
that when folks have nothing of value to say, they resort to
vulgarity. It sort of draws attention to them so they get their "15
minutes of fame". I'm pretty sure we've now reached about 14.7
minutes of yours.

While others have an eternal fame to look forward to.
--
OB

Incidentally, we have not suspended your account. We've simply
moderated it until you keep your word and use your real name. That's
what you promised when you registered. Please keep your promise?

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
H-Man
2009-09-04 21:06:50 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
Why oh why doesn't PowerBasic still not offer a real trial version?. As
a old time user of TurboBasic I would love to see if PowerBasic is a
good alternative for VB.NET which I now use.
"We do not have demo/free/eval copies at this time. However, there is a
great deal of information available at www.powerbasic.com, including a
complete list of all statements and functions. Also, there are more than
200,000 searchable customer messages on our forum section which should
provide great insight into the quality of our products."
In other words "trust us" and rely on the opinions of loyal PowerBasic
users.
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
Every other commercial programming language has a trial version. Why not
PowerBasic? What are they afraid of? If they are really convinced that
they offer a great product then they must provide a trail imho ....
Marc, here's another option for you. I went through the same thing and
ended up doing some more research. I found PureBasic. This is a very
powerful language, can build gui and console programs and .dll. It includes
a visual designer and there are many additional libraries available for it,
and does not require a runtime (that was important to me). There are also
MAC and Linux versions available. Now the good part, it is very affordable,
and all upgrades are free. The Mac and Linux versions are included with
your purchase.

PowerBasic can handle Variant and Currency data types, PureBasic cannot.
Beyond that, AFAIK, there's little PowerBasic could do that PureBasic could
not do. The PureBasic forums, allow one to use an alias, and have found the
forums to be a very helpful environment. Best of all, if you'd like, there
is a test drive version available. Take it for a spin, and if you have
questions, post to the forums. I hope you find the experience as positive
as I did.
--
HK
Marc van Breemen
2009-09-05 11:07:07 UTC
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Post by Marc van Breemen
Why oh why doesn't PowerBasic still not offer a real trial version?. As
a old time user of TurboBasic I would love to see if PowerBasic is a
good alternative for VB.NET which I now use.
"We do not have demo/free/eval copies at this time. However, there is a
great deal of information available at www.powerbasic.com, including a
complete list of all statements and functions. Also, there are more than
200,000 searchable customer messages on our forum section which should
provide great insight into the quality of our products."
In other words "trust us" and rely on the opinions of loyal PowerBasic
users.
I refuse to pay for a boxed version, wait a week before it arrives and
then, when I don't like it, send it back to them and hope that I get my
money back excluding the postal costs which I think I have to pay myself.
Every other commercial programming language has a trial version. Why not
PowerBasic? What are they afraid of? If they are really convinced that
they offer a great product then they must provide a trail imho ....
Marc, here's another option for you. I went through the same thing and
ended up doing some more research. I found PureBasic. This is a very
powerful language, can build gui and console programs and .dll. It includes
a visual designer and there are many additional libraries available for it,
and does not require a runtime (that was important to me). There are also
MAC and Linux versions available. Now the good part, it is very affordable,
and all upgrades are free. The Mac and Linux versions are included with
your purchase.
PowerBasic can handle Variant and Currency data types, PureBasic cannot.
Beyond that, AFAIK, there's little PowerBasic could do that PureBasic could
not do. The PureBasic forums, allow one to use an alias, and have found the
forums to be a very helpful environment. Best of all, if you'd like, there
is a test drive version available. Take it for a spin, and if you have
questions, post to the forums. I hope you find the experience as positive
as I did.
I do now PureBasic and looked at it shortly. At first sight it looks good
(small IDE, small EXE's) and can be compared with PowerBasic to some
extend. I'm however not (yet) convinced that it's of equal quality and it
worries me if they will stay in operation. They ask a one-time price which
is very low (79 euro) and don't charge for updates. How will they survive
long with that policy, or maybe this is and will be a hobby project and
they have a 'normal' daytime job.

I'm not saying that PureBasic is out of my mind yet. Maybe you can
convince me. F.e. by giving me a PureBasic code translating of the VB.NET
code I just posted on the PB forum (under 'PowerBASIC for Windows').
H-Man
2009-09-08 21:56:11 UTC
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I do now PureBasic and looked at it shortly. At first sight it looks good
(small IDE, small EXE's) and can be compared with PowerBasic to some
extend. I'm however not (yet) convinced that it's of equal quality and it
worries me if they will stay in operation. They ask a one-time price which
is very low (79 euro) and don't charge for updates. How will they survive
long with that policy, or maybe this is and will be a hobby project and
they have a 'normal' daytime job.
I'm not saying that PureBasic is out of my mind yet. Maybe you can
convince me. F.e. by giving me a PureBasic code translating of the VB.NET
code I just posted on the PB forum (under 'PowerBASIC for Windows').
Marc,

Your concern regarding the overall longevity of the product does have some
merit, however, it is currently being actively developed and I don't think
the developers are going anywhere any time soon. PureBasic has been
marketed since late 2000. The reason I moved to PureBasic is because VB6
was discontinued. This fact illustrates that compilers and languages have
no long term guarantee. I personally can't see any reason, beyond a few
small company policies, why anyone would not want to purchase PowerBasic
from a purely technical standpoint. It is truly a fine product. Personally,
paying for every upgrade and every add-on, for me is a deal breaker. If you
plan to make a lot of money developing with it, then you may be able to
justify it. For me, and this is just for me personally, and for the time
being, I get way more for my money with PureBasic. Again, that's just for
me personally.

BTW, PureBasic does perform much faster compiling and then running the exe
outside of the IDE than just running from inside the IDE. This is different
than PowerBasic where the two run pretty much the same speed. The reason, I
assume, is due to the inclusion of the debugger in the IDE run code.

For me a real plus to PureBasic is the community forums. There's a great
deal of help there, and there are a large number of libraries available as
well. You also have the option to build your own libraries for inclusion in
other projects. Built-in native support for SQLite and OBDC, and a number
if different graphics format makes things a bit easier as well. I can
honestly tell you that to this point, whatever I needed to do that wasn't
already built-in, I found a way to build it myself, or found someone else I
could borrow code or a library from.

When you ported your .NET code to PureBasic you illustrated the slow string
handling that PureBasic has. This isn't really a bad thing as once you know
that building a string using "a'+"b"+"c" is a really slow way to do this. I
learned that in VB6. Creating a static string and manipulating it's
contents is always faster. I will say this though, PowerBasic does dynamic
strings really quickly.

Anyway, here's your PureBasic code somewhat modified. On my modest machine
it takes about 19500mS when run from inside the IDE, and about 6850mS from
a standalone exe. I did find a faster way and that was to convert the
string "ab" to a word $6261 and PokeW() the word to the right string
address. This did run faster, about 1000mS on my machine) but is not really
in keeping with handling strings. This version very cl.osely emmulates the
version posted by John Gleason on the PB formum.

;- ********* Start PureBasic code *********
; everything with a ";" in front of it is remarked out
; and will not execute

EnableExplicit

Define strString.s
Define dblDouble.d
Define intIndex.i
Define intString.i
Define intDouble.i
Define StartTime.i
Define ElapsedTime.i
Define ab$
Define de$

;- **** This is the slow way ****
; StartTime = ElapsedMilliseconds()
;
;
; For intIndex = 0 To 100000
;
; strString = ""
; For intString = 0 To 200
; strString = "ab" + strString + "de"
; Next intString
; strString = ReplaceString(strString, "ab", "123")
;
; dblDouble = 9876.54321
; For intDouble = 0 To 1000
; dblDouble = dblDouble * dblDouble
; dblDouble = dblDouble / ((dblDouble + 100) / 2)
; Next intDouble
; Next

;- **** This is a faster way ****
StartTime = ElapsedMilliseconds()

ab$="ab"
de$="de"

For intIndex = 0 To 100000

strString=Space(4*201)
For intString = 0 To 200
CopyMemory(@ab$,@strString + (2*201) - (2*intString) -1,2)
CopyMemory(@de$,@strString + (2*201) + (2*intString) +1,2)
Next intString
strString = ReplaceString(strString, "ab", "123")

dblDouble = 9876.54321
For intDouble = 0 To 1000
dblDouble = dblDouble * dblDouble
dblDouble = dblDouble / ((dblDouble + 100) / 2)
Next intDouble
Next

ElapsedTime = ElapsedMilliseconds()-StartTime
MessageRequester("","Tijd:" + Str(ElapsedTime), #PB_MessageRequester_Ok)

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HK
H-Man
2009-09-08 22:31:55 UTC
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On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:07:07 +0200, Marc van Breemen wrote:
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Post by Marc van Breemen
I do now PureBasic and looked at it shortly. At first sight it looks good
(small IDE, small EXE's) and can be compared with PowerBasic to some
extend. I'm however not (yet) convinced that it's of equal quality and it
worries me if they will stay in operation. They ask a one-time price which
is very low (79 euro) and don't charge for updates. How will they survive
long with that policy, or maybe this is and will be a hobby project and
they have a 'normal' daytime job.
I'm not saying that PureBasic is out of my mind yet. Maybe you can
convince me. F.e. by giving me a PureBasic code translating of the VB.NET
code I just posted on the PB forum (under 'PowerBASIC for Windows').
Oh, and I forgot, PureBasic does 64bit, Linux and MacOSX
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