Hutch, I should start by saying that I respect your work and your
I have addressed most of the comments you have made in these threads:
To summarize, I was granted expressed permission to post on the PB
forums by Mr Zale, live, in person, on the phone, years ago. Wayne has
said he was too. We were not banned for using a handle, we were banned
for offending Mr Zale.
Banning bone fide registered users and refusing to sell them upgrades
is childish, but as evidenced by the posts above, it impacts
developers that have made a significant investment of time and money
in developing software. In my case, the cost of migrating to another
language is substantial and will take at least 2 years. These are
legitimate complaints that really can't be minimized as "whining".
You know better than anyone what it takes to write a compiler like PB,
and I suspect your respect for Mr Zale is borne out of this. I
understand that, but would also ask you to consider the possibility
that the number of people all saying the same thing might not be just
While I am not fond of usenet forums in general, they are the one
place that is beyond the reach of Mr Zale's delete button. For this
reason alone, I post the unsavory truth and my personal experience.
What I accomplish by this is a source of information that others
considering this compiler have access too. I only WISH I had read
these threads ten years ago.
I believe that truth prevails. I believe people are not stupid. I
think anyone reading these threads can discern for themselves what is
BS and what is not. I believe people have the right to know, and while
powerbasic is a fine language for what it is, it is administered in a
way that has a high potnetial for a great deal of pain down the road.
I defy anyone to read Wayne's posts on the PB forum and now here, and
tell me he is exaggerating or misrepresenting the truth. We have
incurred substantial loss as a result of Mr Zale's actions.
Unfortunately human history is full of brilliant people that are
narcissistic ego maniacs, but their brilliance does not give them the
right to get away with things that the rest of us would be held
accountable for. While I may not be winning a popularity contest here,
I do know the truth and I am not afraid to stand up and say it.
As for my credibility, my years of posting on the PB forum speak for
themselves. My code contributions are dug up and used frequently:
"2 hours work with the fabulous help of Mike Trader's header files"
My Handle is ubiquitous and I take with me all my history of posting
just as you do with your name. The only difference is that for the
very sound reasons I have enumerated, I decline to have my privacy
violated by the unreasonable demands of an online forum (software that
I paid for by the way)
There seems to be this unwritten "code of conduct" that prevents
"respectable" developers from casting aspersions on other developers
work under ANY circumstances. It is deemed "unprofessional". IF you
buy into that, then by definition alone, I have "lost" credibility. I
If we were talking about trash talking someones code (assuming it he
was proficient), then yeah, thats a little tacky. But a compiler
developer banning good people left and right, deleting threads, and
lying.... cmon, that's an elephant in the living room. The fact that
everyone sits idly by, trying to keep the retarded cousin a family
secret, is more a statement of the disfunction of the family than my
loss of credibility.
So with the greatest respect, I think you may find it quite difficult
to refute the statements made in these threads - which at this point,
is about the only way I can see to accomplish what I think you are
attempting (supporting powerbasic). Should Mr Zale step aside, I think
the product could have a new lease of life, but for now, it is mired
in controversy and has a shady reputation of his own making.