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Auric__ and Hutch are the same person.
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software.engineer
2010-06-06 14:35:19 UTC
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Looking at the writing styles of both Hucth and Auric__, I am
convinced that they are the same person.
Both wrote disjoint and awkward responses to my challenge. And BOTH
misunderstood it. While I did not mention the need for the challenger
to submit source code, BOTH took the challenge to mean that. And BOTH
mentioned RENT-A-CODER.

Also, looking at the writing style of Hutch, and his previous sales
letter, it is clear they are from two different writers. Zale is
posting sales letters through Hutch.

I also note that these "Australians" make use of American references
(clarence darrow) in their writing - more prompting from Bob?

But now, let's see what an idiot Auric__ makes of himself as he tries
to play lawyer himself, and use logic:

Auric__
"I've never claimed to work in the software industry."
Good, thanks for that admission.

Auric__ "He's [Hutch] lying because he chose not to download something
illegally?"
1) Hutch stated that he owns all versions of PowerBasic.
2) PowerBasic is licensed software.
3) As such, Hutch has a license to use and have a copy of all
versions.
4) Therefore, Hutch can download ANY version he has a license for
and ... it is NOT illegal for him to do so.

Let's argue the law some more - you idiot.


I wrote, "Let's make that the challenge."
Auric__ (the idiot wrote) "You first."
OK. I've started.


I wrote, "I do not have stock or other financial benefits from
RealBasic, PureBasic or KBasic. But I do use them."
Auric__ (the idiot wrote) "These true confessions tell us so much
more. You are clearly an agent
for at least one of these vendors/suppliers and leave them fuly[sic]
liable ... it would appear "prima facia"
that you are attempting to practice law as an advocate for these
vendors that you are acting as an agent for."

1) The cause of action for liability does NOT apply to the fact
pattern that Auric__ asserts. Admitting that a person is a user of a
product, is not sufficient to rise to the level needed to for a cause
of action for liability. Thus, none of the companies would have ANY
liability for the fact pattern presented by Auric__.

2) Prima Facia depends on the rules regarding a cause of action. Here,
Auric__ has failed to meet that burden.

3) Oh My God, what a moron. Auric__'s logic goes like this:
A) I use a product,
B) Thus I am an advocate for that product,
C) Thus I am attempting to practice law on their behalf of the
product's company.
D) Thus the product company has legal exposure.
This doesn't even pass the laugh test.


Auric__ "you have just told us that YOU have donloaded these illegal
copies... . ... Eric,
surely the economic climate up in Michigan is not so bad that you
cannot affort to own a fully registered version of PowerBASIC."...

YES - you MORON, I did DOWNLOAD these copies of PowerBasic, BUT...
1) I PAID for these versions of PowerBasic.
2) PowerBasic is licensed software.
3) As such, I have a license to use and have a copy of these versions.
4) Therefore, I can download ANY version I have a license for and ...
it is legal.

5*) Notice how Auric__ worked in another slight against Michigan. In
fact, I live in Washtenaw County, one of the most prosperous counties
in the state. It has had the least impact of the downturn.

Please ask Bob, when you are done blowing him, to see that I indeed
paid for many version of PowerBaisc (DOS, CC, Win). And court records
reflect this as an EXHIBIT (the invoice from PowerBasic). I also have
my invoice for the latest version(s).

When software is posted on a website, it is NOT illegal. The cause of
action required in a copyright infringement case is higher than most
lay-people understand. The poster may have committed a crime, the
hosting company is often protected, the downloader my be protected,
but the file itself is neither legal or illegal.


Auric__ "Now as I credit you as having a bit more sense ... why the
PHUK would you be promoting downloading illegal copies of software ?"
1) The software is not illegal, - See above.
2) It establishes that Hutch / You are lying. There are no viruses in
these downloads. Saying so is an attempt to sell PB for Bob. And that
is my point.


Auric__ "Well here is the distinction Eric, while you work in the
automotive
industry, there are those among us who have been working in the
software industry for over 20 years."

1) No bonehead, actually I have only worked for an automotive company
since 2007. I have worked in the software industry for 30 years.
2) I would be happy to hear from any person, "among us", with 10+
years of software industry experience. But you and Hutch are not. You
both defend PB, yet Hutch admits he uses C and ASM as his primary
language. You admit that you do not write commercial software.
3) At Ford, my software calculated critical safety information where,
if wrong, people die. That is a whole higher level than Hutch or
Auric__ are working at.

Wow, that was fun.
Please hurl more insults at me.
It seems I can make you my bitch by asking you to insult me.
Who's your daddy!
Auric__
2010-06-06 15:49:39 UTC
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Post by software.engineer
Looking at the writing styles of both Hucth and Auric__, I am
convinced that they are the same person.
Wrong. You can check our IP addresses. Hutch's is provided by iinet, an Australian
broadband provider:
http://www.iinet.net.au/

Mine is provided by Cox, an American broadband provider (among other things); yours by SBC
(or AT&T or whatever they choose to call themselves).
Post by software.engineer
Both wrote disjoint and awkward responses to my challenge. And BOTH
misunderstood it. While I did not mention the need for the challenger
to submit source code, BOTH took the challenge to mean that. And BOTH
mentioned RENT-A-CODER.
Wrong again. I did not mention that site, although I am aware of it. I also did not
anywhere offer to submit source code to anything or anyone.
Post by software.engineer
I also note that these "Australians" make use of American references
(clarence darrow) in their writing - more prompting from Bob?
I'm not in or from Australia, nor have I ever claimed to be. I have repeatedly stated on
Usenet that I live in Arizona; search Google Groups. (I've *been* to Australia -- Perth,
Fremantle, and Sydney -- but I don't live there. Wouldn't mind it, though. Nice place.)
Post by software.engineer
But now, let's see what an idiot Auric__ makes of himself as he tries
Auric__
"I've never claimed to work in the software industry."
Good, thanks for that admission.
I think you're trying to make me look like I *have* posted claims to the contrary
elsewhere. Please include Message-ID's (or URLs) if you think you have evidence of such.
Post by software.engineer
Auric__ "He's [Hutch] lying because he chose not to download something
illegally?"
1) Hutch stated that he owns all versions of PowerBasic.
2) PowerBasic is licensed software.
3) As such, Hutch has a license to use and have a copy of all
versions.
4) Therefore, Hutch can download ANY version he has a license for
and ... it is NOT illegal for him to do so.
Let's argue the law some more - you idiot.
My (possibly flawed) understanding (IANAL) is that since it's not coming from PowerBASIC
Inc, or an authorized reseller of some sort, it's probably not legal, regardless of whether
or not the downloader already owns a copy of the software. (Again, IANAL, and I have never
claimed to be one.)
Post by software.engineer
I wrote, "Let's make that the challenge."
Auric__ (the idiot wrote) "You first."
OK. I've started.
So you're setting up that server you mentioned?
Post by software.engineer
I wrote, "I do not have stock or other financial benefits from
RealBasic, PureBasic or KBasic. But I do use them."
Auric__ (the idiot wrote) "These true confessions tell us so much
more. You are clearly an agent
for at least one of these vendors/suppliers and leave them fuly[sic]
liable ... it would appear "prima facia"
that you are attempting to practice law as an advocate for these
vendors that you are acting as an agent for."
I did not write any of that, nor any of the stuff you quoted afterward. That's from Hutch.
Post by software.engineer
3) At Ford, my software calculated critical safety information where,
if wrong, people die. That is a whole higher level than Hutch or
Auric__ are working at.
I think that is *probably* irrelevant to this particular discussion -- but if I was writing
software that lives depended on, I certainly wouldn't be writing for Windows. I'd choose an
RTOS -- QNX probably, since I'm already familiar with the PC version.
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You should not be here. Go back. All this is your fault.
hutch--
2010-06-06 16:20:42 UTC
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Eric,

You seem to be very confused, first I am Bob Zale, then Auric, who
else am I supposed to be ? ow RE: pseudo US legal arguments, they mean
SQAT to the rest of the world, in fact if you persist with this line
of argument you will qualify for a one way ticket to Palukaville. You
would do better if you simply parroted standard stuff "Pollie wanna
kracker ?".

Since you would not know who Garfield Barwick was, you will have to
stay with that Scopes feeling trying to be Clarence Darrow to your
very limited audience of Auric and I.

3) At Ford, my software calculated critical safety information where,
if wrong, people die. That is a whole higher level than Hutch or
Auric__ are working at.

The assumption level here is humerous, while I am pleased to hear that
Ford US keep a few American programmers off the bread line, this is
not the type of stuff you skite about, if you want to hit the big time
in technical stuff start writing CAD at a commercial level followed by
Eric OS and someone may take you seriously.
Auric__
2010-06-07 05:53:14 UTC
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Eric,
Are you not seeing the OP's posts?
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Jesus H. Christ. It's like Japan crapped in here.
hutch--
2010-06-07 08:03:22 UTC
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Don't worry Auric, poor Eric is very confused at the moment, he is
having identity problems with anyone he is dealing with, he has so
many hair brained conspiray theories that he does not know which way
is up or what goes forwards and backwards. Soon he will be calling you
Bill Gates or Richard Stallman or perhaps both.
Auric__
2010-06-07 13:32:51 UTC
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Post by hutch--
Don't worry Auric, poor Eric is very confused at the moment, he is
having identity problems with anyone he is dealing with, he has so
many hair brained conspiray theories that he does not know which way
is up or what goes forwards and backwards. Soon he will be calling you
Bill Gates or Richard Stallman or perhaps both.
My point is, you post like you're missing his original msgs, and therefore
missing out on the true extent of his... um... "interesting" posts, since I
only quote what I'm replying to.
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If you love me, then love me.
hutch--
2010-06-07 19:12:44 UTC
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Auric,
Post by Auric__
My point is, you post like you're missing his original msgs, and therefore
missing out on the true extent of his... um... "interesting" posts, since I
only quote what I'm replying to.
No, I am not missing the content of his posts, its just that poor Eric
is so confused there is not much to address in his posts. Once you
bypass the verbal masturbation and the phony "legal speak" there is
not much left at all.

WHO DO YOU WANNA BE TODAY ?
Auric__
2010-06-07 22:12:45 UTC
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Post by hutch--
Auric,
Post by Auric__
My point is, you post like you're missing his original msgs, and
therefore missing out on the true extent of his... um... "interesting"
posts, since I only quote what I'm replying to.
No, I am not missing the content of his posts, its just that poor Eric
is so confused there is not much to address in his posts. Once you
bypass the verbal masturbation and the phony "legal speak" there is
not much left at all.
WHO DO YOU WANNA BE TODAY ?
Can I not be you, please? My hands get sore when the puppet strings get tied
too tightly...
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A person is smart.
People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
hutch--
2010-06-08 01:56:31 UTC
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Thats easy, take it up with Eric or is it Auric ?

Now be kind to Eric or is it Auric and don't pull the strings so tight
or he will not be able to parrot such nonsense to keep us all amused.
"Pollie wanna a krakka ?"

WHO DO YOU WANNA BE TODAY ?

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