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Latest PowerBASIC Gazette offering. PBCC 4.0 for $49.00 US.
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hutch--
2010-06-02 06:44:57 UTC
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The latest version of the gazette turned up today and while sad to say
I own every version of PBCC since it was first released, for
programmers who want a commercially well proven compiler that has
slugged out some massive number of successful commercial apps after ir
was released, you can pick up the Classic PBCC 4.0 for peanuts, $49.00
USD.

Particularly for programmers who have written older DOS style basic in
the past this is a very good tool, you can still write line numbered
basic if you really want to, QB DOS style basic procedural basic or
the more modern style that includes Windows API functions and a very
good inline assembler at a more advanced level.

You not only have classic basic commands and function but an extensive
range of basic extensions that the old basics did not have. It is a
true 32 bit PE compiler so while you can write code that looks like
the old DOS stuff, it in fact is a native code 32 bit portable
executable compiler and the performance with well written code is
competitive to anything available on the commercial market and far
higher prices.

This is not some GPL freeware, scareware, basic look alike, its a hand
written basic compiler written by a genuine assembler language master
and it has performance to match its pure assembler origin. For just
under $50 US, you get the real McCoy and access at the real strength
of PowerBASIC, its peer forum of satisfied customers who are part of a
community that actively help each other out and contrary to scouring
the dregs of Usenet, there is some real talent there who actually know
what they are talking about.

Now making this posting in a clapped out old Usenet group like this
will invite the loonie tune brigade who will offer you illegal
downloads of virus infected hot copies, thse who want to convince you
to try out BillBasic, CharlieBasic, AnyBasic, YourBasic, MyBasic,
ThisBasic, ThatBasic and a whole host of other stuff but if you want
the real McCoy with matching peer group support for peanuts,
PowerBASIC is the real McCoy.

Now while a few haunt this place like a bad smell sobbing silently in
the corner at how wicked the world is for not supporting their phony
identities, you can bypass all of this crap and go directly to
PowerBASIC, buy the classic version of PBCC for peanuts and join the
peer group forum to get support for you new toy.

Another one of many satisfied customers.

hutch
software.engineer
2010-06-03 14:10:28 UTC
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It looks like Bob Zale is posting under the name Hutch.
Running the latest post, supposedly by "Hutch", through a plagiarism
filter,
it matches Bob Zale's writing!

Analyzing past posts from Bob and past PowerBasic newsletters, the
plagiarism software creates a signature.
The latest post, trying to sell PBCC, matched the signature.

Anti-plagiarism software was developed by a PhD and used by 90% of the
universities in the US.
Most people write with the same set of words, same phrases, same
sentence length, etc. As such,
a writer's style can be analyzed by software which compresses all
these characteristics, to what is called,
a signature.

I got curious after reading the LONG post supposedly by "Hutch." Bob
Zale uses an advertising, copy writing style called LONG-COPY.
I had never seen long posts like that from Hutch. So I copied 20
PowerBasic Gazette newsletters and some posts from Bob into Secure
TurnItIn (plagiarism Detection software).

TaDa! Match!

I think Hutch IS a Sock Puppet and ... I know who's had is up his ass.
Hope you wash your hand after Bob.

And this makes sense, look at his posts. It clearly shows that Bob is
trying to defend PowerBasic ...
Post by hutch--
This is not some GPL freeware, scareware, basic look alike, its a hand
written basic compiler written by a genuine assembler language master
and it has performance to match its pure assembler origin. For just
under $50 US, you get the real McCoy and access at the real strength
of PowerBASIC, its peer forum of satisfied customers who are part of a
community that actively help each other out and contrary to scouring
the dregs of Usenet, there is some real talent there who actually know
what they are talking about.
This next section has the same argument used by the RIAA/Music
Industry - downloading illegal music is of lower quality.
"virus infected hot copies"
As a legal owner of PowerBaic, I did download the version posted - it
has NO VIRUSES.
Post by hutch--
Now making this posting in a clapped out old Usenet group like this
will invite the loonie tune brigade who will offer you illegal
downloads of virus infected hot copies, thse who want to convince you
to try out BillBasic, CharlieBasic, AnyBasic, YourBasic, MyBasic,
ThisBasic, ThatBasic and a whole host of other stuff but if you want
the real McCoy with matching peer group support for peanuts,
PowerBASIC is the real McCoy.
A fair and balanced look at PowerBasic reveals some flaws (these were
collected from uses - not my list of issues):
- No OOP support (despite the fact that the ASM version Zale uses
supports OOP!)
- No Classes (ie functions within structures)
- No dynamic strings in structures (and of course in classes either)
- No cross platform support (Linux, Mac, Mobile devices etc. (This was
why I switched to RealBasic ten years ago)

One user wrote, "As a procedural language it is quite good but v8.x
has some silly legacy 16bit limitations like file path lengths that
will make the resource compilers fail."

Another user wrote, "There is no support for complex data types like
user defined classes. A good example would be the C#/C++ StringBuilder
class. Strings can do some of this, but I had to write a class from
scratch which is the fundamental basis of all I do with SQL's etc."

And a user wrote, "There is also no real support for the language.
Zale relies heavily on the user base to answer questions in the forum.
His knowledge is actually quite limited and he is very slow to get
anything done. If you count the number of actual support answers (not
insults) ITS VIRTUALLY NONE EACH MONTH."

Personally I love this, "its a hand written basic compiler written by
a genuine assembler language master."
Hand written, aren't we lucky to have "hand written" software.
I am not sure who the, "genuine assembler language master" is, but it
is not Bob. He is the PUPPET MASTER!

Eric
hutch--
2010-06-03 23:01:35 UTC
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Eric,

There is a simple solution if you don't have what it takes to properly
use PBCC, especially as it is one of the simpler dialects of basic
available, go to RENT A CODER and pay someone to write stuff this
simple for you.

Now with this obvious self promotion while acting as an agent for
vendors of other dialects of basic, tell us when we can expect
Eric_Basic to hit the market written by hand instead of just a pile of
crappy libraries and in pure assembler.

Now if you are a paying customer of PowerBASIC as you claim, all you
need to do is look up the product sheet for the last few versions to
see where your mistakes are and what you have failed to understand in
terms of capacity.
This was why I switched to RealBasic ten years ago
Self confession that you are a parrot acting as an agent for another
company, when are you going to comre clean Eric ?

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