Discussion:
Custom freelance PowerBasic programming
(too old to reply)
Wayne
2008-06-12 08:22:45 UTC
Permalink
I am now offering my PowerBasic programming services to the general public.
For more information please see http://pbthis.prophp.org
Auric__
2008-06-12 18:37:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wayne
I am now offering my PowerBasic programming services to the general
public. For more information please see http://pbthis.prophp.org
I suggest putting up some *working* examples of things you've already
done. Without examples, how can a potential client judge your quality of
work? (If I was looking to outsource programming, one of the things I'd
want would be working sample code.)

Also, I'd lose the adult ads. Just a heads-up. (If the ads aren't under
your control, change web hosts, *now* -- unless your target customers
are adult websites.)
--
You use the tools you're familiar with.
Failing that, you use what's available.
-- me
Michael Mattias
2008-06-12 19:19:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Auric__
Post by Wayne
I am now offering my PowerBasic programming services to the general
public. For more information please see http://pbthis.prophp.org
I suggest putting up some *working* examples of things you've already
done. Without examples, how can a potential client judge your quality of
work? (If I was looking to outsource programming, one of the things I'd
want would be working sample code.)
Also, I'd lose the adult ads. Just a heads-up. (If the ads aren't under
your control, change web hosts, *now* -- unless your target customers
are adult websites.)
I personally don't like the audio ads. So far I have been orally (well,
digitally orally anyway) congratulated on being selected to receive a free
IPod nano, a free laptop computer, a free MacBook Air (whatever the hell
that is) and a free Iphone.

Not enough about you Wayne.. you really need to tell people who you are,
where you are and where you are coming from.

You're a pretty good programmer from what I've seen; so if you are going to
advertise you need to emphasize that.

(This is not an endorsement; I haven't seen THAT much).

Also, no "clickable send me email" is bad. I know you don't want to put a
"real" link on the page, but news flash here: you need to make it easy to
contact you, not a pain in the ass to copy the address from the graphic. Any
resulting spam ... hey, that's just the cost of doing business using email.
--
Michael C. Mattias
Tal Systems Inc.
Racine WI
***@talsystems.com <<<< Real link
http://www.talsystems.com

(Some people might view us as competitors, but we're not. I do totally
different things using a totally different business model)
Auric__
2008-06-13 00:25:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Mattias
Post by Auric__
Post by Wayne
I am now offering my PowerBasic programming services to the
general public. For more information please see
http://pbthis.prophp.org
I suggest putting up some *working* examples of things you've
already done. Without examples, how can a potential client judge
your quality of work? (If I was looking to outsource programming,
one of the things I'd want would be working sample code.)
Also, I'd lose the adult ads. Just a heads-up. (If the ads aren't
under your control, change web hosts, *now* -- unless your target
customers are adult websites.)
I personally don't like the audio ads. So far I have been orally
(well, digitally orally anyway) congratulated on being selected to
receive a free IPod nano, a free laptop computer, a free MacBook
Air (whatever the hell that is) and a free Iphone.
This computer doesn't have any speakers connected, and I have Flash
(and all forms of audio turned) off in Opera, so I don't *think* I'm
getting audio ads. (I'm also on dial-up, so something as large as an
ad with sound I'd like to think I'd notice.)
Post by Michael Mattias
Not enough about you Wayne.. you really need to tell people who you
are, where you are and where you are coming from.
I gathered from his language that he is in Australia. (A quick
traceroute seems to confirm that, but I expect that your typical
client probably wouldn't know how to do even that much.)
Post by Michael Mattias
You're a pretty good programmer from what I've seen; so if you are
going to advertise you need to emphasize that.
(This is not an endorsement; I haven't seen THAT much).
Also, no "clickable send me email" is bad. I know you don't want
to put a "real" link on the page, but news flash here: you need to
make it easy to contact you, not a pain in the ass to copy the
address from the graphic. Any resulting spam ... hey, that's just
the cost of doing business using email.
You could always limit yourself to people with Javascript turned on.
I've done that before. Some untested air code (it's been a *long*
time):

<script language=javascript>
function doEmail() {
var a=".c"
var b="@g"
var c="il"
var d="is"
var e="ma"
var f="om"
var g="pb"
var h="th"
var i="to:"

// can't remember the right wording for this -- maybe window.top?
document.top.location = e + c + i + g + h + d + b + e + c + a + f
}
</script>
[...]
<img src="Loading Image..." onclick="javascript:doEmail()">
--
What part of "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
don't you understand?
Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
2008-06-27 05:35:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Mattias
Also, no "clickable send me email" is bad. I know you don't want to put a
"real" link on the page, but news flash here: you need to make it easy to
contact you, not a pain in the ass to copy the address from the graphic. Any
resulting spam ... hey, that's just the cost of doing business using email.
Take a look at the email address at the top of GuyMacon.com. Go ahead and
click it and send me a one word "hello" email. Note the subject line and
the exact digits after the "Y." Now cut and paste and again note the exact
digits after the "Y." Then look at the source code.

Clickable, allows me to tell who clicked and who cut and pasted, and
not one single spam has ever had the characteristics that a real
email from someone who clicks the link has.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
Michael Mattias
2008-06-27 11:57:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
Post by Michael Mattias
Also, no "clickable send me email" is bad. I know you don't want to put a
"real" link on the page, but news flash here: you need to make it easy to
contact you, not a pain in the ass to copy the address from the graphic. Any
resulting spam ... hey, that's just the cost of doing business using email.
Take a look at the email address at the top of GuyMacon.com. Go ahead and
click it and send me a one word "hello" email. Note the subject line and
the exact digits after the "Y." Now cut and paste and again note the exact
digits after the "Y." Then look at the source code.
Clickable, allows me to tell who clicked and who cut and pasted, and
not one single spam has ever had the characteristics that a real
email from someone who clicks the link has.
My two web sites also use clickable things like that. The only thing I do
with those is use a 'mailto' address different from my 'regular' email
account.

Yup, I do get notifications on those accounts that I can earn a nice
commission by assisting some relative of some former official of an African
nation get his money out of his troubled country, but as I said before: cost
of doing business.

MCM

Loading...